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pootle50
Posted 2011-07-25 3:48 PM (#28203)
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Well. I've taken delivery of this today and watched the Northstage DVD already.
Guys. This is AMAZING stuff. To have a "club" gig in such great quality is an unbelievable dream come true. It's an awesome concert and the sound is fantastic
NY Steel - not watched it yet. Got to wait until tomorrow now as the volume will annoy the neighbours at this time of night (yeah, I know, screw 'em). Again. Always wanted to see this since you performed, what with it being one of the most important gigs you've ever done. SO glad you took the decision to film it at the last minute.

Back to the Northstage DVD. Love the inclusion of the video footage of the other drummers in the documentary. What's the chance of these getting released as part of an "Anthology" type boxset, or, if the quality isn't deemed good enough (there's no sound on these clips, so I've no idea), how about website exclusive downloads that we can buy?
You know, like everyone else here, I'm a fan and I'll buy any concert that's good sound and video, even if it's mono and single camera - these are historical records that should be seen and heard!

Anyway. I'll tell you how I like "The Show" so far...
Remastered albums and 3 new live DVD concerts this year, all on the back-end of the last couple years worth of DVD releases, new recordings and demos....
How do I like it?
I LOVE IT!!!!!!

So what's next? ;-)

Cheers guys. I hope the ride ain't over yet.
David

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Posted 2011-07-26 2:59 AM (#28206 - in reply to #28203)
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I simply love your post as an SMF to an SMF....

AND.... i agree with everything you said....

GREAT
George
Posted 2011-07-26 8:47 AM (#28209 - in reply to #28203)
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Sounds great. I'll get m copy today at J&R, i have a larger order from Amazon for family and friends
I can't wait to see both shows, but i'll play the NY Steel show first.
Wildcard
Posted 2011-07-26 10:35 PM (#28214 - in reply to #28203)
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I agree.Along with the Reading footage this is THE release of the year so far for me. Simply stunning!!!! I agree with the post about the silent footage with the other drummers.Would love to see these get released as well. What do you think Jay Jay? The only thing again I think that would make it a problem releasing the footage(along with any quality issues) would be what if any cover songs were performed. Any other thoughts SMFS?
Twisted_Munro
Posted 2011-07-27 6:46 AM (#28215 - in reply to #28203)
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I got my copy in the mail from Amazon yesterday as well, and had a chance to watch the North Stage DVD, and I have to agree completely with your post. It was fantastic to see a "club" setlist, and the sound and video footage are awesome.

One funny note is when Dee says that "You Can't Stop Rock and Roll" will definitely be on the album. I wonder why they decided not to put it on Under the Blade, and instead waited another year. Anyway, worked out in the end, as I love the fact that it's Twisted Sister's first video and if it was on that album it probably wouldn't have been used for a video, as I doubt Secret records had any budget for videos.

Anyway, fantastic video and I'm looking forward to watching the NY Steel show tonight.

Thanks TS for this awesome package, and can't wait to see you guys in Quebec City!

Mark
George
Posted 2011-07-27 2:09 PM (#28219 - in reply to #28215)
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Here is a review of the double DVD

http://www.dvdverdict.com/reviews/twistedsisterdoublelive.php

The Charge
Burn in Hell all Metalhead Poseurs—this is the REAL DEAL!
The Case
Twisted Sister were always their own worst enemy. After developing a huge cult following in the bar scene in and around their native New York, they became metal fixtures based on the same pseudo-gimmick that made KISS (and today, Slipknot) household names. The drag act, the female inspired clothing and get-up worn by Dee Snider (lead singer), Mark Mendoza (bass), AJ Pero (drums), Jay Jay French (rhythm guitar) and Eddie Ojeda (lead guitar) turned what was always an amazing group of musicians into a novelty. Even worse, the eventual MTV-ing of their persona placed them square in a domain that was part dopey, part homage (to Animal House, more than anything else) and part power. Today, the reunited quintet call themselves the Iron Men of Rock N Roll. Three decades ago, little about their persona would suggest such a macho tag. Still, they were a fantastic band, even better live, as showcased by this delightful two disc set.

Offering true Twisted Sister rarities, Double Live begins before the band were international superstars. Their 90 minute show at the North Stage Theater in Long Island would be considered by many to be their "farewell"—from the club/bar scene, that is. The group was scheduled to head off to Europe shortly thereafter and record their first LP (1982's Under the Blade). Honed to perfection and sonically skin tight, this version of Sister was a true music machine, even if only the most devoted fan would recognize the set list. Absent are later mega-hits like "We're Not Gonna Take It" and "I Wanna Rock." In their place are cover versions of "Leader of the Pack" (always a weird selection for Snider and the boys) and the Rolling Stones "It's Only Rock 'n' Roll (But I Like It)." Along the way, we get terrific takes on "What You Don't Know (Sure Can Hurt You)," "Bad Boys of Rock 'n' Roll,," "Shoot 'em Down" and "You Can't Stop Rock 'n' Roll," among others. Aficionados will really enjoy rarities like "Lady's Boy" and "Destroyer."

It's not hard to see why Sister were pumped and prepared for their future. They are DAMN good here. Snider's frontman chops are flawless, and Ojeda and French are a formidable guitar duo. The direction is slightly pedestrian, consisting of either a long shot of the entire band, center stage, or random (and often out of focus) close-up shots. There is no real complaint with the presentation per se. The music more than makes up for the lack of visual panache. The same can be said for the New York Steel show. Masterminded by rock DJ Eddie Trunk (of VH-1 Classic's That Metal Show fame) and featuring other seminal New York acts like Anthrax and Ace Frehley, the concert was set-up as a benefit for the victims of 9/11. With venue promoters desperate for a hook to sell tickets, the idea was floated of getting Twisted Sister back together. Considering the huge amount of animosity when the band broke up, and the fact that they hadn't played together in over 13 years, it seemed like a crapshoot.

Luckily, the band's love of America and the cause saw them put aside their differences and make an appearance. The 80 minute showcase would lead to an eventual full blown reunion, a recommitment to music that exists to this day. While a little rough around the edges (Snider in particular has some so-so vocal moments), the chance to see the band again after over a decade in exile is exciting. This time around, we get more recognizable fare, with "The Kids Are Back," "Stay Hungry," "S.M.F." and the two previously mentioned hits in tow. Once they get past the obvious stage fright and jitters, the group settles in nicely, Snider doing his best to wave the flag (even wearing a hilarious spangled "F*ck Osama" vest during the set. Sans make-up, looking older and meaner, this version of Twisted Sister truly earns the moniker "Iron Men." Even after a long time out of the limelight, they still rule the metal roost they helped define in the early '80s.

As for the overall presentation here, the DVDs are quite good. North Stage is presented in a 1.33:1 full screen image that is clean, clear, if slightly muddled at times. Remember, this was recorded before video became a solid HD medium. We are getting an upgraded camcorder showcase, nothing more or less. Still, it looks great. So does the 1.79:1 anamorphic transfer offered for New York Steel. While the stage set-up is sparse (no large light show, no pyrotechnics) and the visuals less than flattering, the presentation element matches the music—lean, mean, and more than acceptable. As for the aural aspects, fans might be angry over a pure Dolby Digital Stereo only remaster. No multichannel choice of 5.1 immersion. At least the added content makes up for the lack of pure sonic bliss. We get interview documentaries accompanying each show, the band today discussing the particulars of each gig in an open and honest Behind the Music kind of confessional. There is also a stills gallery accompanying the New York Steel show, as well as DVD cover art essays from Trunk and French.

As a scrapbook of a band slowly reestablishing its classicism, Double Live is direct and delightful. Here is a chance to see Twisted Sister before they became a gaudy roadshow, and after they let fame fracture their brotherhood. A band as good as this deserves such a memento from their past. Luckily, their present seems destined for just as many accolades.
The Verdict
Not Guilty. Great band. Even better sonic souvenir.

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Did we give Twisted Sister: Double Live a fair trial? yes / no

tssmf4lyfe
Posted 2011-07-28 6:06 PM (#28227 - in reply to #28203)
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i'm hoping the local FYE has it when i head out this weekend
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Posted 2011-07-28 6:06 PM (#28228 - in reply to #28215)
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Twisted_Munro - 2011-07-27 6:46 AM

I got my copy in the mail from Amazon yesterday as well, and had a chance to watch the North Stage DVD, and I have to agree completely with your post. It was fantastic to see a "club" setlist, and the sound and video footage are awesome.

One funny note is when Dee says that "You Can't Stop Rock and Roll" will definitely be on the album. I wonder why they decided not to put it on Under the Blade, and instead waited another year. Anyway, worked out in the end, as I love the fact that it's Twisted Sister's first video and if it was on that album it probably wouldn't have been used for a video, as I doubt Secret records had any budget for videos.

Anyway, fantastic video and I'm looking forward to watching the NY Steel show tonight.

Thanks TS for this awesome package, and can't wait to see you guys in Quebec City!

Mark


i think on CLUB DAYS VOLUME 2 when they perform "lady's boy" dee says it will be on an album but it never was
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Posted 2011-07-29 7:59 AM (#28231 - in reply to #28203)
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Seems to me we're getting better releases this year than we did even back in the day - I spent last night ripping the show audios so I can listen on my iPod when I'm away from home. Reading, North Stage & US Steel are all very high quality releases, it's great to get some key show footage without feeling it's been compromised in some way. Thanks to JEDMA (love it!) for the attention to detail here.
Now bring on an official Marquee release and I'll be a happy man.
pootle50
Posted 2011-07-30 7:58 AM (#28239 - in reply to #28203)
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I'd love to see the Odyssey Disco gigs with better sound (do they have soundboard copies?) and from the master tapes, REGARDLESS of whether they are crappy VHS or not.
Ah hell. I'm a fan. I want to see it ALL !!!!
Captain Howdy
Posted 2011-07-30 8:44 PM (#28245 - in reply to #28203)
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Once again, I must give thanks to the boys for delivering the goods with this release. Great DVDs and very well done! The North Stage show is awesome! It's great to see them with a club daze set list! And I've been wanting to see that NY Steel show ever since it happened! Great stuff guys! Keep the goods coming!
Wildcard
Posted 2011-07-30 9:48 PM (#28248 - in reply to #28203)
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After watching the interviews about the Northstage show i think I've come to the conclusion that is about as close to a club daze dvd as we will get. The reason for this I believe is this. We fans hold the band's days in the clubs in high regards, but it's apparent after watching the interviews that the band does not. No reason for them to bring back bad memories by going thru any more footage for future releases. Would I love to see it? Hell yes!!! I'm happy with this release and if this is all we ever get then I'll be satisfied!!!
marcelotwisted
Posted 2011-07-31 5:52 AM (#28250 - in reply to #28203)
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Fantastic!!! I got my copy yesterday!!! Northstage concert kick some fuckin´ass!!!
tssmf4lyfe
Posted 2011-07-31 10:22 PM (#28261 - in reply to #28203)
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i'll have to order it. my local FYE did not get it which even they said was odd because they said when TS release a new product it is always a pretty good seller the first 2-3 weeks. the under the blade cd/dvd new release they said they sold 4 within the first 6 weeks after it was released
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Posted 2011-08-02 8:04 AM (#28285 - in reply to #28248)
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The problem was the the 'club daze" went on too long (for me it went from March 1973 to December 1982) and, while you all were having a great time every night, we were dealing with one label rejection after another and having to fire too many members for drug and alcohol abuse. There were many nights that were fun. After all, we learned how to BE a band playing clubs. It just seemed that we were trapped and were never getting out.
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