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| hi just a quick question....what are the best cd versions of ts albums to pick up? i have several already but dont have cant sop rock n roll or loves for suckers on cd at all.
is it worth gettin the demolition records re issues? my under the blade cd is on spitfire and ive heard that the demolition records version has a lot better mixing on it....
thinkin of gettin all four on the demolition records label..... |
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| The best version of You Can't Stop Rock 'N' Roll CD is the original on the Atlantic label. That one doesn't have the three bonus tracks but it is the real deal. The Spitfire 1999 "re-issue" is mastered from vinyl... Haven't heard any of the Demolition 2006 versions so I have no comment on those.
Love Is For Suckers is the only one of the Spitfire re-issue CD's that I recommend as it as has four bonus tracks and the sound quality is pristine.
Yes, there are two different mixes of Under The Blade: the original 1982 European version and the 1985 American re-mix version. The original European CD on Secret/Virgin, Roadrunner or Intercord labels are really tough to find, try Ebay. The best version of the re-mix CD is the 1997 Japanese one.
Hope this helps.
Check out my band's website:
http://www.winterborn.info
and my TS fan site:
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| thanks for the help my ellow smf!
anyone else know anything bout these recent re issues?? |
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Nearly A Band Member
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Location: Chicago | Rami - 2006-03-06 3:39 PM
The best version of You Can't Stop Rock 'N' Roll CD is the original on the Atlantic label. That one doesn't have the three bonus tracks but it is the real deal. The Spitfire 1999 "re-issue" is mastered from vinyl... Haven't heard any of the Demolition 2006 versions so I have no comment on those.
Love Is For Suckers is the only one of the Spitfire re-issue CD's that I recommend as it as has four bonus tracks and the sound quality is pristine.
Yes, there are two different mixes of Under The Blade: the original 1982 European version and the 1985 American re-mix version. The original European CD on Secret/Virgin, Roadrunner or Intercord labels are really tough to find, try Ebay. The best version of the re-mix CD is the 1997 Japanese one.
Hope this helps.
Check out my band's website:
http://www.winterborn.info
and my TS fan site:
http://www.nic.fi/~rheikkil
I personally prefer the remaster of "You Can't Stop Rock and Roll". It's not really "remixed" as it's just re-mastered so it's still the original mix but it's cleaner and all the highs and lows are re-stored that really don't come through as well on the original version. That's just my opinion anyway. With that being said, I think the remaster is worth it just for the 3 bonus tracks as this is the only place you can get these b-sides from the old vinyl days and "Feel The Power" is one of my favorite TS tunes!!!! Definately should have made it to an album!
A side not on "Under the Blade". The UK version of the Spitfire "UTB" is actually the original mix" It's even got the original cover and does not include "I'll Never Grow Up, Now!" the same as the original vinyl. I personally much prefer the original mix than the US remix so I grabbed this when I had the chance. It's actually readily availaby in the UK at the low price of only 7.99 (pounds) when I found it. They had 4 of them on the shelf at the Virgin store in London that I was in. I'm pretty sure that it was converted right from vinyl actually because there's a couple of places where I'm pretty sure I can hear a record pop. Those of you that are old enough to own vinyl know the sound well! If you want this one, make sure the "Twisted Sister" logo and name on the front is in blue. Not the one in Yellow! That's the remix. (I've got both.) |
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| Well, you are entitled to your opinion, but I really hate it when CD's are recorded from vinyl records. CD's are supposed to be made from the master tapes. If I want to hear vinyl pop sounds then I will listen to vinyl records. At least there should be a sticker on the CD cover that says "mastered from vinyl" or something. The record companies really think that record buying people are stupid enough not to notice the difference.
Yes, I know that the YCSRNR "remaster" is the only place where you can get Feel The Power, Four Barrel Heart Of Love and One Man Woman on CD, it's just that the whole thing is recorded from vinyl. For most people that will suffice, but not for the hardcore fans who grew up with the original.
It's a bad thing that Atlantic Records won't give the TS back catalogue a real remastering treatment. Granted, Twisted never sold as many records as Led Zeppelin or AC/DC but I'm sure the remasters would sell enough to make that worthwhile. TS really is a band for the outcasts, and TS are treated like outcasts among the record companies.
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| i ordered the demolition records 30th anniversary re-issues bout 2 days ago.
the production on still hungry was fab..ive heard great things about these versions.
namely just alot more power then some of the crappy re-issued cd's of the past...i.e my under the blade (spitfire) cd
i'll post to let everyone know what they are like. (i didnt have ycsrnr and lfs on cd so had to order them!) all 4 cds have bonus tracks on them (stayhungry didnt get re-released on the new label btw)
*guess its being totally ignored now still hungry has been out*
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Nearly A Band Member
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Location: Chicago | Rami - 2006-03-07 3:38 PM
Well, you are entitled to your opinion, but I really hate it when CD's are recorded from vinyl records. CD's are supposed to be made from the master tapes. If I want to hear vinyl pop sounds then I will listen to vinyl records. At least there should be a sticker on the CD cover that says "mastered from vinyl" or something. The record companies really think that record buying people are stupid enough not to notice the difference.
Yes, I know that the YCSRNR "remaster" is the only place where you can get Feel The Power, Four Barrel Heart Of Love and One Man Woman on CD, it's just that the whole thing is recorded from vinyl. For most people that will suffice, but not for the hardcore fans who grew up with the original.
It's a bad thing that Atlantic Records won't give the TS back catalogue a real remastering treatment. Granted, Twisted never sold as many records as Led Zeppelin or AC/DC but I'm sure the remasters would sell enough to make that worthwhile. TS really is a band for the outcasts, and TS are treated like outcasts among the record companies.
That's all for now.
Rami
Hey Rami, I would have to agree with you 100% about record labels mastering CDs from vinyl. I think it's BS. I just was pointing out to the folks that want the original mix of "Under the Blade" that there was actually a way to get it on CD without paying through the nose. I'd much prefer a version taken from the masters but since that version is out of print and I can't afford to pay crazy sums of money, I'll take what I can get. Just passing it on so you know where I'm coming from.
As for "YCSRNR", you think that the remaster was from vinyl?? Where did you hear that? That remaster doesn't sound like it came from vinyl at all to me. It sounds very clean. I actually had the original version as well and think the remaster sounds cleaner, bigger, and fatter than the original CD version. I think that album was probably played more than any other album in my collection when it came out on vinyl and I thought the original version on CD sounded a bit flat and that the highs and lows weren't there. To each his own, I guess. You can't go wrong with either one because it's such a friggin' kick ass record. If that remaster is actually mastered from vinyl, I'm really surprised. I had know idea that it was. |
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| *guess its being totally ignored now still hungry has been out*
I think atlantic records have the rights to the Stay Hungry album, thats why it hasn`t been
re-released. |
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| Yes, the 1999 "remaster" version of YCSRNR is really mastered from vinyl. One listen with the headphones was all I needed to notice the the vinyl pop sounds. Also notice the longer gap between I'll Take You Alive and You're Not Alone. On the original there really wasn't a gap at all. Also, Jay Jay admitted on the Slamboard that the YCSRNR "remaster" CD was mastered from Japanese vinyl. Well, vinyl is vinyl no matter where it comes from and no CD should be mastered from that medium.
I know that TS didn't have access to the original master tapes and they wanted to re-release the albums on CD, even if they had to master them from vinyl. But that's really no excuse. I think that's a slap on the old-time fans' face. If really the Demolition 2006 versions from the UK are better, then that's fine but I'm sticking to the original CD's with just one exception: Love Is or Suckers (which is remastered from the original tapes or DAT). |
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| one word....WOW! got all the re-isues today....
ycsrnr is amazing...sound is great,still got the other 3 to go,
let u know what they r like soon |
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Nearly A Band Member
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| Glad you are enjoying the new CDs. Now turn up the volume  Enjoy |
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| my final impression of these cd's.......AWESOME!
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| ALL of them! |
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