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| Hey everyone, It's been a long time since I've posted here, and I've never posted on this new board. I'm a HUGE Twisted Sister fan, and I've driven from Boston to see 4 shows (2 Bent Brother, 2 Twisted Sister) since April 2003. Twisted is simply my favorite band. They are the first heavy metal band I ever got into, and I've been listening to them since I was 14 in 1997, which any SMF can remind you was a rather stagnent time for the band. There isn't anything I wouldn't do for this band: I own every album, two picture interview discs, posters, anything I can ever get my hands on. The pinnacle of all this was being spellbound at meeting JJ after a show BB show at the Station. But, I have to express my discontent over this Christmas album. I already had reservations about the re-recording of Stay Hungry, but I really believe this Christmas album is going too far. If this is to be the band's last ever release... I don't know, it just leaves me disappointed. It seems like kind of a funny end, seemingly a way to fizzle out. If this Christmas album is actually meant to serve as a penultimate release, and if we perhaps have one final album or DVD to expect, then maybe they're setting us up for that. I just think this Christmas album is an incredibly cheasy end to a band that has tried to dodge being called cheasy throughout a greater part of its career. Perhaps my disappointment goes too far; I mean no disrespect to the band, nor its fans. If this is the band's wish, all I can do is respect that and be thankful for the shows I've been able to see and the albums that I cherish. Maybe the album will be a lot more fun than I'm anticipating. Either way, being the ardent fan that I am, I'm still likely to buy it at some point. I understand what it's like being in a band, you really have to satisfy what you want to do before you can even come close to making the fans happy, otherwise things will just never work out. This band has been extroadinarily great to its fans, and they literally owe us NOTHING. In my personal opinion, the greatest album Twisted Sister ever released was Live at Hammersmith. The band has always performed and sounded better live than in any studio setting. In the studio, the rawer the production, the better the band has sounded, which is probably why I like the original pressing of Under the Blade best in terms of a studio album. Second to Live at Hammersmith would be the live tracks on Big Hits, Nasty Cuts. Although these tracks have some live concert sound issues, the energy, force, and performance from the band is all there. (As an aside, I would like to say that I was excited to find that alternate takes from this concert at the Marque Club recorded on another date are on the B-side of some of the Secret Record singles. That was a neat, unexpected bonus when I happened on one of them.) I express all of these feelings to show that I truly am a HUGE fan of this band and that I want them to succeed in every way. I just didn't think it was a good idea to record a Christmas album from the beginning, and these feelings have since been compounded upon hearing the "I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus" clip. -MD Edited by The-Mad-Dog 2006-09-16 9:37 AM | |||
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 Nearly A Band Member Posts: 513   Location: New Fuckin Yawk | The-Mad-Dog - 2006-09-16 9:34 AM Hey everyone, It's been a long time since I've posted here, and I've never posted on this new board. I'm a HUGE Twisted Sister fan, and I've driven from Boston to see 4 shows (2 Bent Brother, 2 Twisted Sister) since April 2003. Twisted is simply my favorite band. They are the first heavy metal band I ever got into, and I've been listening to them since I was 14 in 1997, which any SMF can remind you was a rather stagnent time for the band. There isn't anything I wouldn't do for this band: I own every album, two picture interview discs, posters, anything I can ever get my hands on. The pinnacle of all this was being spellbound at meeting JJ after a show BB show at the Station. But, I have to express my discontent over this Christmas album. I already had reservations about the re-recording of Stay Hungry, but I really believe this Christmas album is going too far. If this is to be the band's last ever release... I don't know, it just leaves me disappointed. It seems like kind of a funny end, seemingly a way to fizzle out. If this Christmas album is actually meant to serve as a penultimate release, and if we perhaps have one final album or DVD to expect, then maybe they're setting us up for that. I just think this Christmas album is an incredibly cheasy end to a band that has tried to dodge being called cheasy throughout a greater part of its career. Perhaps my disappointment goes too far; I mean no disrespect to the band, nor its fans. If this is the band's wish, all I can do is respect that and be thankful for the shows I've been able to see and the albums that I cherish. Maybe the album will be a lot more fun than I'm anticipating. Either way, being the ardent fan that I am, I'm still likely to buy it at some point. I understand what it's like being in a band, you really have to satisfy what you want to do before you can even come close to making the fans happy, otherwise things will just never work out. This band has been extroadinarily great to its fans, and they literally owe us NOTHING. In my personal opinion, the greatest album Twisted Sister ever released was Live at Hammersmith. The band has always performed and sounded better live than in any studio setting. In the studio, the rawer the production, the better the band has sounded, which is probably why I like the original pressing of Under the Blade best in terms of a studio album. Second to Live at Hammersmith would be the live tracks on Big Hits, Nasty Cuts. Although these tracks have some live concert sound issues, the energy, force, and performance from the band is all there. (As an aside, I would like to say that I was excited to find that alternate takes from this concert at the Marque Club recorded on another date are on the B-side of some of the Secret Record singles. That was a neat, unexpected bonus when I happened on one of them.) I express all of these feelings to show that I truly am a HUGE fan of this band and that I want them to succeed in every way. I just didn't think it was a good idea to record a Christmas album from the beginning, and these feelings have since been compounded upon hearing the "I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus" clip. -MD MD, First thing is this...you are more than entitled to your thoughts and opinions on any matters relating to TS. After all, this slamboard was made for us, the fans. Your comments are well received. But the other thing I want to mention is that this Christmas album needs to be heard in full before you or anyone shoots it down. I can tell you for sure that the album will be a strong one simply because it is done entirely in TS style music. How do I know this.....I was fortunate to be a part of the choir/chorus for some of the tracks on the album. And from what I heard (and I heard some of the song mixing), this album will not disappoint. And since you are a TS fan who will travel to see TS or BB shows, and you like their live shows better, I strongly encourage you to attend any upcoming shows that will promote the Christmas album. In fact, a show in Pittsburg has just been confirmed for December 9th. Please attend this show and I'd be willing to bet that your disappointment will turn into a huge smile on your face. | ||
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    Location: Graveyard BLVD. | Mad Dog! Nothing cheezy about this Christmas album I can honestly say that. Just wait till you hear it then come to your FINAL conclusion. Don't jump the gun yet, you might wind up shooting yourself in the foot! lol..... It ROCKS, and I say that with the utmost confidence. And you might be forgetting the most important reason of all that this album was made...Dee, Mark, Jay Jay, Eddie and AJ WANTED TO. They had fun doing it, THIS is what made THEM happy! They are entitled to it no matter what WE think. THEY are happy doing it. It was a blast. Believe! They believed in us, now we believe in them! Edited by SMF Cyndi 2006-09-16 3:35 PM | ||
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 Extreme SMF Posts: 119 Location: Sydney | I have to admit that I was a little skeptical at first when I heard about the chriasmas album, but I am happy to say I came around to the idea. I think at the time, I was just disappointed about the cancelled dates in Nottingham & London but I got over it. At the end of the day this is new TS material which is we all want & I hope they come over to the UK to promote the album. | ||
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| Hey everyone, Thanks for your comments, and not for outright shooting me down. I tried to go through great lengths explaining my point of view, and mentioned many of the things that you have, such as the fact that this is what the band wants, and the band needs to make themselves happy first. Like I said, I will likely buy this album. This includes going to any TS/BB shows I possibly can go to; I'd see the band even they weren't playing ANY of Twisted Sister's music. I think when the boys hit the stage, no matter what songs they play, they just simply rock, and even just the show aspect of the music is worth seeing again and again. I'll try and be more open minded in the future. If I change my opinion about the Xmas album, you'll all be the first to know! -MD Edited by The-Mad-Dog 2006-09-17 7:16 AM | |||
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 Nearly A Band Member Posts: 944 | give it a chance. i felt the same way you do until i heard i saw mommy kissin santa claus then i was like oh mant his is gonna rock. | ||
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 Record Company Good Guy Posts: 575 | tssmf4lyfe - 2006-09-18 4:51 AM give it a chance. i felt the same way you do until i heard i saw mommy kissin santa claus then i was like oh mant his is gonna rock. Ok so here's my take. I too was leary of this. When asked to sing on it I jumped at the chance. Hearing some of the playback, I was amazed at how rocking the few songs we heard were. NOW FOR THE GOOD PART. I received a promo of the cd last week. I am amazed at how rocking this is. To be honest the worst part is some of the backing vocals (sorry gotta tell the truth). The guitar playing is phenomenal, AJ is a monster. MAM well pounds the hell out of the bass and Dee sings his ass off. This is by far the best Xmas cd I own. Plus it's not so abrasive that your non metal fans will enjoy it as well. When time permits I will give a more detailed review. But FEAR NOT SMF's Twisted Christmas is a winner. | ||
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Location: Graveyard BLVD. | The-Mad-Dog - 2006-09-17 7:16 AM Thanks for your comments, and not for outright shooting me down. I'll try and be more open minded in the future. If I change my opinion about the Xmas album, you'll all be the first to know! -MD Ah neat. I will be looking forward to your review MD!  PS: Your original post was honest and great, I think alot of us was leaning toward that as well until we heard more...lol.. | ||
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Location: Graveyard BLVD. | Saber - 2006-09-19 9:09 AM tssmf4lyfe - 2006-09-18 4:51 AM give it a chance. i felt the same way you do until i heard i saw mommy kissin santa claus then i was like oh mant his is gonna rock. Ok so here's my take. I too was leary of this. When asked to sing on it I jumped at the chance. Hearing some of the playback, I was amazed at how rocking the few songs we heard were. NOW FOR THE GOOD PART. I received a promo of the cd last week. I am amazed at how rocking this is. To be honest the worst part is some of the backing vocals (sorry gotta tell the truth). The guitar playing is phenomenal, AJ is a monster. MAM well pounds the hell out of the bass and Dee sings his ass off. This is by far the best Xmas cd I own. Plus it's not so abrasive that your non metal fans will enjoy it as well. When time permits I will give a more detailed review. But FEAR NOT SMF's Twisted Christmas is a winner. Yes yes, I KNOW you've been rockin' to the entire audio! LMAO... I have just one question? WHEN?? WHEN?? lol...hahaha... | ||
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Record Company Good Guy Posts: 575 | SMF Cyndi - 2006-09-19 12:29 PM Saber - 2006-09-19 9:09 AM tssmf4lyfe - 2006-09-18 4:51 AM give it a chance. i felt the same way you do until i heard i saw mommy kissin santa claus then i was like oh mant his is gonna rock. Ok so here's my take. I too was leary of this. When asked to sing on it I jumped at the chance. Hearing some of the playback, I was amazed at how rocking the few songs we heard were. NOW FOR THE GOOD PART. I received a promo of the cd last week. I am amazed at how rocking this is. To be honest the worst part is some of the backing vocals (sorry gotta tell the truth). The guitar playing is phenomenal, AJ is a monster. MAM well pounds the hell out of the bass and Dee sings his ass off. This is by far the best Xmas cd I own. Plus it's not so abrasive that your non metal fans will enjoy it as well. When time permits I will give a more detailed review. But FEAR NOT SMF's Twisted Christmas is a winner. Yes yes, I KNOW you've been rockin' to the entire audio! LMAO... I have just one question? WHEN?? WHEN?? lol...hahaha... I'm thinking the night of AJ 's clinic?? | ||
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 Extreme SMF Posts: 190 Location: Austria | SMF Cyndi - 2006-09-16 3:32 PM Nothing cheezy about this Christmas album I can honestly say that. Just wait till you hear it then come to your FINAL conclusion. Don't jump the gun yet, you might wind up shooting yourself in the foot! lol..... It ROCKS, and I say that with the utmost confidence. Believe! They believed in us, now we believe in them! Well, rocking or not, that's not the point, for christ's sake! It's a fucking christmas album!?! And doing a christmas album is chessy... not matter how hard it rocks! | ||
