WNGTI on Dancin' with the Stars...
SMF Cyndi
Posted 2012-04-10 11:09 PM (#30209)
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STEEL PANTHER Teaches Dancing With The Stars Dancer About Metal

Last night, Steel Panther's vocalist Michael Starr and lead guitarist Satchel visited the set of Dancing With the Stars. The duo were called in by dancer Cheryl Burke to teach her partner William Levy about 80's metal for 80's week. The song choice was Twisted Sister's "We're Not Gonna Take It," a song which William knew nothing about.

This video is hysterical!!!!! Who is TS? LOL...I also love Steel Panther!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IMOCYnAqjU&feature=player_embedded

http://legacy.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=172434

This is the actual footage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=E2xUMIYDoU4


Warning...This is NOT PG13 below.......

Here is Steel Panther doing WNGTI cover:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXvBbEV4zOg

Edited by SMF Cyndi 2012-04-10 11:14 PM
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Posted 2012-04-10 11:27 PM (#30210 - in reply to #30209)
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You know, I love ANY exposure to Twisted Sister for the general public....the more people that hear Twisted Sister, the more people will understand why us SMFs love them so much.

but I have to draw the line somewhere. I just can't bring myself to watch dancing with the stars. I can't. Betty White? Yes. DWTS? I just.... can't.....do.... it

must.....not....do....it...

oh hell. I'm pathetic. I'm gonna watch it

AND that's 4 minutes and 46 seconds I'll never get back. (and the cover screwed up the lyrics. unforgivable.)

Edited by Armadillo 2012-04-10 11:31 PM
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Posted 2012-04-11 4:05 AM (#30211 - in reply to #30210)
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Wait wait wait a second. The reason we love TS is NOT because of a couple hit songs. And those "needlessly to name songs" are the only songs that the general public will ever likely hear of their catalogue.

I'll also go as far as to say (and Jay Jay & co, I'm sorry for this one) if Dee Snider was not in TS, many of us would not even be here. Let's say it was Kevin DuBrow who fronted TS instead of Dee. Shit I love "Metal Health" and "The Wild and the Young" but it was Dee Snider's outrageously charismatic personality within his signature thematic messages that grabbed our attention and has entranced us and made us the fans we are today. And it wasn't JUST because of a few simple tunes. And their tunes, I'm sorry to say, are extremely simple. It is far from the musicality of Steely Dan, Rush, Van Halen or Widowmaker. TS tunes are very basic. Shit, "I A,m I'm Me" has TWO friggin chords in it! Twisted Sister is more about the attitude than anything else. And of course all bands of some sort of attitude but for whatever reason, THEIRS speaks to US on a level that makes us fanatics.

So who gives a flying fuck what the "public" thinks of them or us?? Why does anyone here need the public's approval of why we are the fans we are? Ugh I feel I'm talking about Mormonism. There shouldn't be this crusade of spreading the TS message. That's such a complacent stance.

I seriously hope none of us expects the public to have that "lightbulb" go off and say "Oh my god, those SMF's were right all along! I don't know why I didn't realize it sooner! Wow, Twisted Sister is soooo great!"

If you are consciously expecting anyone on this earth to have some sort of realization of why something(in this case the music of Twisted Sister) speaks to you so deeply wouldn't you then be expected or even required to return that same gesture and understand why your next door neighbor is so captivated by....Jimmy Buffet?

Why are WE owed that respect to be understood?

I can can make a million comparisons. I like Vanilla, you like chocolate and someone else like strawberry, butter pecan, mocha etc etc. There's no rhyme or reason why one person prefers one taste over another. We're all wired differently. Shove strawberry in my face as much as you want, it's not going to make me understand why you like it so much. And there's no need to have the approval of someone else. Be content with your preferences and respect others as that's probably what you are at the very least looking for.

Ya know, to go "platinum" means selling 1,000,000 units. That's currently less than 1/3 of .01% of the US population! More people will not like or couldn't care less about an artist's creation than like it, nevermind LOVE it.

How many people here like Lady Gaga? Like it or not she's an incredible artist; the late Amy Winehouse as well. How about Regina Spector? Very innovative! At the very least I hope people here can appreciate why they are so revered, acclaimed, admired and successful. I think they're all amazing artists and their music is a lot more interesting than that of Twisted Sister. But so what. The musical creativity of TS is not why I love them so much.

When I heard TS for the first time something triggered inside of me and I wanted more and over the years that craving never let up. I don't know what it was and I didn't care. At first I was driven to discover why I was so drawn to their sound so much and my discovers lead me to previous albums that, I don't know why, but, I just liked it. Then "Come Out and Play" came out and I loved it, meanwhile so many of their hard core fans hated it and the general public pretty much rejected it.

My fanship for them never waned and at this point it doesn't look like it's ever going to fade. It's not something I can control. I can definitely I can see why people wouldn't like them or even can't stand them but big friggin deal, what does it matter? And it's not important to me for them to understand why I am an SMF.

Nobody here wants to have shit shoved down our throats...well....you know what I mean. Suck it baby!
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Posted 2012-04-12 8:56 PM (#30230 - in reply to #30209)
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Jaysin--

I actually have NO idea what you are fired up about. Honestly, I just don't.

I agree AND disagree with you--
Agree that Dee Snider had a lot to do with the band's success and popularity. Just like a star quarterback may lead a team to the Super Bowl, it is still the teamwork that wins the big dance (no pun intended). And I'm not sure that Twisted would have been successful with any other frontman.

That said....
Because of my love for TS, it has made me profoundly appreciate the individual talents of the band. I went out and bought "Cities" because I love AJ's drumming. I went back and listened to the Dictators because M.A.M. is the best damn bassist I've ever seen. I love Eddie's solo work, and should Jay Jay venture out, I'd certainly follow his efforts as well. To me, they are five outstanding talents who together form the perfect storm of live heavy metal music.

The public? I do love Twisted Sister getting "exposure" these days-- it is not 1984 anymore. In the 80's, TS got mentioned in the news for their music being used by the military as a weapon. Now, TS music is heard in sets all over the world thru Betty White's sitcom, Wendy's Commercials and yes, the dreaded Dancing With the Stars. Every time I heard WNGTI on Wal Mart, Wendy's and even that women's hygiene product commercial...it made me smile. TS does that to me.

Do I care if America likes it? Of course not. But I do like that America HEARS it. The way that my own father wanted to be sure that I was exposed to opera and classical music as a child, I DO want American audiences that have never heard Twisted before, have exposure to it and perhaps spark a renewed interest in their music, popular tunes and oldies alike.

I see many of us SMFs as heavy metal ambassadors--every where I go, I wear the Twisted colors. I recently commissioned a special hot pink and black paracord (military cord) bracelet for my wrist....and the hot pink shoelaces are back into my black sneakers. When I wear them out and about, people and stop and ask me the significance.....and I get a chance to share with them my love for Twisted Sister. I sent them here--to the website--and to youtube to check out old clips of past concerts. I know you share my love for Twisted Sister, Jaysin...but I have a sincere desire to share that passion with the world, as hokey as that sounds.

As for your comments re: I Am, I'm Me-- my favorite TS song-- If it has two chords, those two chords are in the key of "Kick" and "Ass." The Ramones and the Sex Pistols used three chords their entire careers--doesn't diminish their work in my eyes.

The longer TS music is out there in circulation, the longer (perhaps) the band will play shows to adoring masses. I want TS to live on long past the days when the band has put their suitcases in the closet.

Long Live Twisted Sister!
SMF Cyndi
Posted 2012-04-12 10:52 PM (#30231 - in reply to #30230)
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I could not have said this any better, thank you so much Terry.......deep in my heart I feel the same way. I've said it before, I support EVERYTHING the boyzz do..WHY? Because they deserve/earned it. I bow down to them for saving my life giving me courage and strength not only once but twice....during suckass highschool & second during a diagnosis of the big "C" in 2003-then treatment into 2004. As a loving daughter of a Marine, Semper Fi! "Always Faithful"........."Always Loyal". Now and forevermore. That is how I see/feel it.

As for "I AM, I'M ME"...it's my fav song and could care less if it had no musical chordes....the lyrics rule my heart. As for all the statistics, pfffttt..honestly. Who gives a flyin' poop?

Armadillo - 2012-04-12 3:56 PM

Jaysin--

I actually have NO idea what you are fired up about. Honestly, I just don't.

I agree AND disagree with you--
Agree that Dee Snider had a lot to do with the band's success and popularity. Just like a star quarterback may lead a team to the Super Bowl, it is still the teamwork that wins the big dance (no pun intended). And I'm not sure that Twisted would have been successful with any other frontman.

That said....
Because of my love for TS, it has made me profoundly appreciate the individual talents of the band. I went out and bought "Cities" because I love AJ's drumming. I went back and listened to the Dictators because M.A.M. is the best damn bassist I've ever seen. I love Eddie's solo work, and should Jay Jay venture out, I'd certainly follow his efforts as well. To me, they are five outstanding talents who together form the perfect storm of live heavy metal music.

The public? I do love Twisted Sister getting "exposure" these days-- it is not 1984 anymore. In the 80's, TS got mentioned in the news for their music being used by the military as a weapon. Now, TS music is heard in sets all over the world thru Betty White's sitcom, Wendy's Commercials and yes, the dreaded Dancing With the Stars. Every time I heard WNGTI on Wal Mart, Wendy's and even that women's hygiene product commercial...it made me smile. TS does that to me.

Do I care if America likes it? Of course not. But I do like that America HEARS it. The way that my own father wanted to be sure that I was exposed to opera and classical music as a child, I DO want American audiences that have never heard Twisted before, have exposure to it and perhaps spark a renewed interest in their music, popular tunes and oldies alike.

I see many of us SMFs as heavy metal ambassadors--every where I go, I wear the Twisted colors. I recently commissioned a special hot pink and black paracord (military cord) bracelet for my wrist....and the hot pink shoelaces are back into my black sneakers. When I wear them out and about, people and stop and ask me the significance.....and I get a chance to share with them my love for Twisted Sister. I sent them here--to the website--and to youtube to check out old clips of past concerts. I know you share my love for Twisted Sister, Jaysin...but I have a sincere desire to share that passion with the world, as hokey as that sounds.

As for your comments re: I Am, I'm Me-- my favorite TS song-- If it has two chords, those two chords are in the key of "Kick" and "Ass." The Ramones and the Sex Pistols used three chords their entire careers--doesn't diminish their work in my eyes.

The longer TS music is out there in circulation, the longer (perhaps) the band will play shows to adoring masses. I want TS to live on long past the days when the band has put their suitcases in the closet.

Long Live Twisted Sister!


Edited by SMF Cyndi 2012-04-12 10:55 PM
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Posted 2012-04-12 11:19 PM (#30235 - in reply to #30209)
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Maybe it's just me and you on this, Cyndi... but what is so terrible if there is a new wave of popularity? what is wrong with a new generation of Twisted Sister fans...I mean, they already exist. How many times have we seen kids at shows with their SMF parents. The kids know the music from their video games. Never seen a music video, never seen an album cover, never even knew the Twisted Sister "look." They love the music--and I hope that is part of Jaysin's point--it IS all about the music.

Give me my two frickin' chords and lets' rock!



Edited by Armadillo 2012-04-12 11:21 PM
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Posted 2012-04-13 3:13 AM (#30236 - in reply to #30235)
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Armadillo - 2012-04-12 11:19 PM

Maybe it's just me and you on this, Cyndi... but what is so terrible if there is a new wave of popularity? what is wrong with a new generation of Twisted Sister fans...I mean, they already exist. How many times have we seen kids at shows with their SMF parents. The kids know the music from their video games. Never seen a music video, never seen an album cover, never even knew the Twisted Sister "look." They love the music--and I hope that is part of Jaysin's point--it IS all about the music.

Give me my two frickin' chords and lets' rock!



Terry, you made me laugh with the "Kick and Ass". That was funny. Well crafted. But for me, I gotta say, with TS, it's not all about the music. It's something else.

And honestly, Terry, not fired up at all actually. No use of caps or exclamations to express any fiery attitude. Just good headbuttin conversation. Ok? No hostility or spitfire from my end. ~

My point was pretty much in response to this: "..the more people that hear Twisted Sister, the more people will understand why us SMFs love them so much."

That statement just bent me, brother. The public will basically hear 2 songs, right? And these songs are simply NOT the reasons we love TS. Yes, we all get a kick out of hearing TS used in such a broad variety of mediums. It's a kick when they pop up in a commercial, a video game or are suddenly blasting loud in a sports arena. But this will not help the people understand "why" we love TS.

As far as TS gaining more fans? Well that's a given...sure...yeah...terrific. That's super and swell. The more the merrier, right? Hell, I became the I am as a result of hearing WNGTI for the first time. It all started on that day in May of '84 and then it really did something to me the 2nd time I heard it a month later in late June. I was hooked. Going on 28 years. Wow. So I would be a flippin hypocrite if I was against the idea of more exposure for TS. If it can bring joy to someone else the way they've done for me....well...obviously that's a very nice thing.

But your comment wasn't just about them gaining a bigger fan base. I reacted to that "need for approval" from others. Why does someone's understanding of why we love TS so important? Shouldn't we just be content with what makes us happy without needing the "world" to know why it has that affect on us?

I'm sorry I just don't understand that need of approval from others. They're a rock'n roll band. There are thousands of rock'n roll bands. Each band giving a group of people the same love we have towards the band that sucked us in.

I guarantee there aren't many people, if any at all, out there exploring everyone else's intense "guilty pleasures", if you will, in search to understand why that is.

I love this quote: "If everyone agrees, someone's not thinking." There needs to be such a huge variety of all sorts of flavors (be it food, smells, sights, sounds etc) to satisfy all the different tastes that people have out there. People ask me what my favorite band is I say it's Twisted and Savatag and they usually ask about Savatage because they never heard of them.

Anyway, there's definitely music of all genres that I can't friggin stand. Polka, Gospel, Country(for the most part). Oh geeze, Creed...ugh. Can't stand them. But obviously they have a huge fan base. I will never understand why but that doesn't mean those fans are wrong for feeling that way. I respect pretty much everyone's POV as long as they're not hurting anyone. But what IS annoying is when someone pushes their POV's/beliefs on others and that's kinda what triggered me to respond. And I'm not talking about basic sharing of tastes /opinions.

I had a girlfriend/fiance from '95-'02. She took me to see The Kinks, Moody Blues, Phish, No Doubt, Sublime, Grateful Dead, Roots, Fleetwood Mac.... And I took her to see Iron Maiden, Motley Crue, Twisted, Savatage, Poison, Ratt, Rage Against the Machine, Cinderella...

Maybe your initial statement didn't come across the way you intended. Terry, I know why you love TS. You know why I love TS. Or maybe we don't really fully know why each other loves them the way we do. We all might love them for a different reason. There are undoubtedly a lot of similarities between the SMF's reason for fanship but probably some differences too.

But at least TS knows you love TS. Holy shit do they know how much you love them. You're spending your kid's(assuming you have kids one day) entire college tuition on traveling to see every last show possible. And I hope to see you at a show again sometime in the not so far future. And you can tell me why you love TS so much. It's because of WNGTI and IWR, right??? j/k! I listened to your "happy place" story.

Oh and Cyn...it's, "I couldn't care less". I'm gonnna give you an encore...IT'S ABOUT FRIGGIN TIME!!!!

By the way, you guys need to listen to some Savatage! Fuckin amazing. 4 rock operas. 5 part vocal counterpoint. Incredible use of effects. Riffs and solos that soar with creativity and taste. CHECK IT OUT! NOW!! JOIN THE LEGIONS(their version of the SMF's)!!!! WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?!?!?! GO!!!! STOP READING!!!!!!
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Posted 2012-04-13 12:03 PM (#30238 - in reply to #30209)
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Okay then--it's a Twisted Sister lovefest! :-) my favorite kind!

And you are one of my favorite Bent Brothers, so it's all good.

I didn't mean to give the impression that I want approval from others-- the whole reason that Twisted Sister appealed to me as a teenager was the fact that they were all about standing up for yourself, not caring what others thought about you, freedom of expression and being true to oneself....I was a rebellious teen, and that father screaming in WNGTI was definitely MY DAD!

I'm the video generation, so YCSRNR got me hooked (I wanted to see more--I kept seeing/hearing that quick clip that was the MTV promo for a while) and when I saw WNGTI, there was no turning back. I was obsessed--who were these guys? how could they know what I was feeling? How could they know so clearly what I was going through? Could it be possible I wasn't the only kid going through it? Twisted Sister saved many of us. I hate to sound like it was a religious experience, but in many ways, for me, it was.

And I did what so many SMFs of my generation did--I ran out and bought every TS album and single I could find---listened side to side and back again. And like many of the front row crowd, I found that my favorites were all from the early days--I love YCSRNR and UTB--Ruff Cuts holds a special place in my heart. When TS re-released all those oldies on Club Daze and then Still Hungry, I was in 7th Sister heaven! (It's embarrassing to admit this, but if I didn't hear I Wanna Rock and WNGTI at a show, I wouldn't be upset at all....give me the B sides, baby!

I don't know if it's mellowing with age, but these days, I'm a lot less about being in your face like I used to be...and I'm much more about "hey, come find out what this is all about!"

I'm proud to be an SMF, and I'm proud to call all of you my Twisted family.
The band and crew definitely know how much I adore them .... I think they think I'm insane :-) they might be right.

I don't have any kids....and I'm not wealthy....and for those of you who ask, I pay my own way on my travels....
my best friend in the fire service is dying young from brain cancer. His dying wish is to visit Maine--he has plenty of money, and could have gone anywhere in the world...and now it may be too late. I don't want to die with regrets--I'm living life to the fullest these days--a lesson I've learned from my friend Bill. If I'm left without a penny but I can have the experiences of a lifetime, then it's all worth it.

ps I loved Savatage--saw them play a small club in Maryland during the Rage & War Tour. Loved the music, but really hated the lead singer after I saw them live. He was very drunk onstage, and was pretty obnoxious towards a lot of the fans, esp. the ladies, who had come to see them. I lost a lot of respect for them after that--still love the albums, but I don't know if I would make an effort to see them live again. (I often listen to Gutter Ballet when I travel to shows!)

Edited by Armadillo 2012-04-13 12:08 PM