Under The Blade - Secret - Re-release
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Posted 2011-03-05 6:19 PM (#26892)
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Noticed a (used) Japanese SHM 2011 cd on ebay. Its listed as having the normal tracks + ruff cuts! And plenty of other listings on the net for the UTB re-release.
So....why no Euro/U.S. version? So far Ive seen YCSRNR, LIFS, COAP, Wacken, but no Under the Blade!

Man oh man, did anyone else see this out there in the wilds? Not sure if I can list the catalogue number, but it says the label is ´Ward´.




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Posted 2011-03-06 9:33 AM (#26895 - in reply to #26892)
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yes some info would be great. maybe its coming soon and thats why the ruff cuts logo is being used when you go to the TS website
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Posted 2011-03-08 8:59 AM (#26905 - in reply to #26892)
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That´s very true, it could be. Fingers crossed

Btw - here is the link if anyone is interested :

http://www.wardrecords.com/SHOP/VQCD10250.html

**Hope its okay to post links here, not sure of the rules**

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Posted 2011-03-08 2:53 PM (#26909 - in reply to #26892)
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I believe it's in the plans for the secret version to be released in the U.S. I actually think Jay Jay told me a few months back when I mentioned a friend was looking for UTB on itunes and couldn't find it.
George
Posted 2011-03-08 8:35 PM (#26911 - in reply to #26909)
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What's the story with the re-leases. I saw some at J&R in Manhattan last week and didn't know if they were different or better. I haven't seen any news of them on the TS web-page. The song listings looked the same, there didn't seem to be anything extra. Did I miss something?
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Posted 2011-03-09 8:04 AM (#26913 - in reply to #26911)
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George - 2011-03-08 8:35 PM

What's the story with the re-leases. I saw some at J&R in Manhattan last week and didn't know if they were different or better. I haven't seen any news of them on the TS web-page. The song listings looked the same, there didn't seem to be anything extra. Did I miss something?


they are exactly the same as the spitfire releases. not sure if the mixing/mastering sounds any better
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Posted 2011-03-09 3:06 PM (#26914 - in reply to #26892)
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I´ve got the recent YCSRNR from Armoury/Eagle. I think it sounds better than the spirfire release. Could be from the master tapes. ....OR, perhaps, they have done a good job hiding the pops and hiss of an LP conversion. I really cant tell to be honest with you. All I know is that its not as bassy as the spitfire release.

Still clear as mud, eh?

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Posted 2011-03-09 3:59 PM (#26915 - in reply to #26914)
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OK I thought it was just me.....Glad you guys confirm my issue.....
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Posted 2011-03-24 3:55 PM (#27025 - in reply to #26892)
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I have it - finally - in my hands ... Under The Blade re-release, Japanese version with OBI. It´s a mini LP, with the original artwork, and it looks fantastic. They have really done a great job! The cd even comes in one of those plastic liners records used to have

And i´ve saved the best news till last.....it sounds great, so good! Really, REALLY impressed. Any questions guys, just ask.

Thank you Jay Jay for making it happen.
George
Posted 2011-03-24 4:15 PM (#27026 - in reply to #27025)
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That's great news.
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Posted 2011-03-25 9:58 PM (#27044 - in reply to #26892)
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end of May a u.s. release of the secret records mix of under the blade is coming out through armory (sp?) records a division of eagle rock. it does not have "i'll never grow up now" which was not on the original album. it does contain 5 bonus tracks (the ruff cutts e.p. and the reading performance of "shoot 'em down") the set will also include a dvd of the bands reading performance.
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Posted 2011-03-28 3:10 PM (#27053 - in reply to #27025)
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Roadstar

I tried to order Under the Blade from Japan and i couldn't find any English on the website.
Is there an English part of the page i missed?

Thank you
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Posted 2011-03-28 3:28 PM (#27054 - in reply to #26892)
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george read the post i made above yours. it will be out at the en of may with some bonus tracks and a dvd according to armory records
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Posted 2011-03-29 3:12 AM (#27058 - in reply to #26892)
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cool I had a hard time finding UTB when I was looking a couple years ago I did find a russian copy on e-bay ...but I will buy it again this is one of my favs!! .....
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Posted 2011-03-29 5:05 AM (#27059 - in reply to #27053)
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George - 2011-03-28 3:10 PM

Roadstar

I tried to order Under the Blade from Japan and i couldn't find any English on the website.
Is there an English part of the page i missed?

Thank you


Hey George,

My partner ordered it for me as a surprise, and I was wondering too how she did it. When she is home from work, I will ask her for you.
Ill post again later on

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Posted 2011-03-29 9:11 AM (#27060 - in reply to #27059)
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Thank you
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Posted 2011-03-30 4:19 PM (#27074 - in reply to #26892)
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Hey George,

The cd was ordered from the american amazon store. The seller is ´cdbanq´, so I believe. I couldnt get any more info
Let me know how you go with it.
Jay Jay French
Posted 2011-03-30 10:43 PM (#27081 - in reply to #26914)
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The Armoury Records/Eagle rock releases are all remastered from the master tapes. they are the best versions that have ever been released by far.
Under the Blade is a remastered version of the secret records UTB. the vast majority of TS fans only like that one, not the US version.
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Posted 2011-03-31 11:28 AM (#27089 - in reply to #27081)
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Jay Jay French - 2011-03-30 10:43 PM

The Armoury Records/Eagle rock releases are all remastered from the master tapes. they are the best versions that have ever been released by far.
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Ok then it`s time purchase the 3rd cd version of you cant stop, come out and play and love is for suckers.
Great ,looking forward to an uppgrade .
But still love those original vinyls:-)
George
Posted 2011-03-31 8:58 PM (#27095 - in reply to #27074)
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Thank you Roadstar, I'll check and let you know
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Posted 2011-04-08 8:54 PM (#27124 - in reply to #26892)
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Well. I've just taken delivery of the three albums and all I can say is that while they sound fantastic (obviously from a higher source as they seem clearer if nothing else), the downside is they've been "re-mastered" in the typical modern way, ie, the faders seem to have been whacked up full so it sounds loud and punchy.
Unfortunately my ears ache after listening to an entire album.
I know people have an issue with the Spitfire records releases, but at least there is some difference in sound levels within the same song.
Take "Come Out and Play" for instance. On the Spitfire Records version, when the songs kicks in properly with Dee screaming "..of the niiiight...", the word "night" is in two halfs of different volumes, the second half louder than the first: niii-iight.
On the new release there is no noticable volume increase, and looking at the wav file, it's almost, but not quite, a solid line peaking at 0db for most of the track.
NOT impressed.

Edited by pootle50 2011-04-08 9:00 PM
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Posted 2011-04-09 9:16 AM (#27127 - in reply to #26892)
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Further to my previous message.
Don't let my comments put you off from buying these, especially at the cheap price they are.
They DO sound fantastic. I'm hearing instruments I've never heard before, and the bass is rich and clearer than ever. So are Dee's vocals.
My complaint about ear-ache was through listening through my Grado phones, not through my loudspeakers which, let's face it, that's really the only way to listen to Sister!
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Posted 2011-04-09 12:58 PM (#27128 - in reply to #27053)
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Hey George,
http://global.ebay.com/TWISTED_SISTER_UNDER_THE_BLADE_JAPAN_MINI_LP_SHM_CD_/300539500859/item
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Posted 2011-04-09 7:59 PM (#27131 - in reply to #27128)
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Thank you Ponko
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Posted 2011-04-25 9:31 PM (#27218 - in reply to #27025)
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W ell I cant take credit for a reissue that I had nothing to do with.

The official Secret remasters are not out yet and it will be a double disc with a DVD of the Reading Festival. I really know nothing about what you bought. What label is it on? It is on Eagle Rock so if you have a copy that is not Eagle Rock with the DVD then I don't know what you have
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Posted 2011-04-30 4:42 PM (#27261 - in reply to #26892)
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And where do the Demolition records Special 30th Anniversary Releases of YCSRNR, UTB and LIFS come in? I'm asking because they have the same bonus songs than the Armoury ones... is it the same, but a different label for a different territory or are they different?
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Posted 2011-05-01 4:18 PM (#27277 - in reply to #26892)
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Thanks for all the info !
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Posted 2011-05-30 9:05 AM (#27705 - in reply to #26892)
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Received my copy on Saturday - have only had chance to listen to the cd - it's in car - full blast.
Thanks TS and the record company for re-issuing, re-mastering my initial aural introduction to TS. Namely Ruff Cuts and the orig UTB.